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Thread: Obama Officially Succeeds Bush as "Miserable Failure"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter T Davis View Post
    I'd think that Abe Lincoln would take issue with that line. I agree the Republicans are being obstructionists, they're the "Party of No" for sure, but with a solid majority in both the House and Senate, there's no excuse whatsoever for not getting some of the simplest things done that Obama promised like ending "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" for example.

    As to your other points...
    • H1N1....mountain out of a molehill comes to mind.
    • The Wars....haven't seen much change there, is not making things worse an accomplishment?
    • The Oil Spill..... Yea, he got right onto that and solved it in just 100 days of ruining the Gulf.
    • Health Care?.... you got to be kidding, even the far left is suspicious of that one.
    • Financial reforms?....until people start going to jail to pay for their crimes, we are no reformed.
    • Creating Jobs?....yea, that's why the unemployment rate keeps going up, right?
    • The Supreme Court Ladies.....nothing extraordinary there, rather mediocre is what I'd call them.

    I'm still waiting for my change.
    The reason the filibuster threat works so well is because the minority can simply sit on it until they win the seats of power back thus paralyzing the legislative branch from accomplishing anything. Republicans would rather have no legislation than compromise on anything. It is sort of akin to being a unified group of asshats. The Democrats, not nearly as lock-step as the Republicans, need only to lose one vote to be unable to overcome a filibuster. With Independents and fake Democrats like Ben Nelson, a real majority is not possible. That is the stark reality of our legislative process where the minority can effectively block the will of the majority. Ain’t democracy great?

    As my list pointed out, almost any single one of the problems that this administration has had to deal with would have consumed the entire attention of just about any previous administration but added together, I have to give this administration the benefit of the doubt. You have your perspective and I have mine. It is far too early in this administration to make such a judgment as you have made and I am confident that history will bear out my perspective much more than yours.
    I'll stop blaming Bush when conservatives start taking responsibility for Bush.

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    Maybe if the Democrats could come up with some genuinely good legislation, they wouldn't have to worry so much about loosing votes.
    What happens on PRWE stays on PRWE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter T Davis View Post
    Maybe if the Democrats could come up with some genuinely good legislation, they wouldn't have to worry so much about loosing votes.
    You mean like all the "genuinely good legislation" that brought this country to the brink of economic collapse, a phony war kept off the books, 2 enormous tax cuts forced through with the reconciliation process, record gas prices, no job creation, on and on, in the previous 8 years? I seriously doubt the Democrats are going to propose anything similar to that any time soon BUT don't despair. If the Republicans are somehow able to gain enough seats in November and then win the White House in 2012, you'll get plenty more of that same legislation you seem to miss so much. If everything that the Republicans have voted against in the past year and a half doesn’t convince you that they are only interested in the top 2% of the economic ladder, nothing I can say will convince you either. It’s a shameful record of disregard for the middle class that by every single indicator has bore the brunt of this economy. But the wealthy aren’t content and just want to take more because 83% of the stocks owned by the upper most 1% of the country just isn’t enough for them. They are drunk on their own greed.
    I'll stop blaming Bush when conservatives start taking responsibility for Bush.

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    If you want to talk about the Congress, Moen, I have just two words for you..... Charlie Rangel.
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    Dr Moe's arguments are no different than Toe's, just a bit better worded. To sum it up: He likes BO more than he likes Bush. Does that about sum it up Dr Moe?

    Oh yeah, H1N1 was Bush's fault now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter T Davis View Post
    If you want to talk about the Congress, Moen, I have just two words for you..... Charlie Rangel.
    You mean if I wanted to change the subject, I'd talk about Charlie Rangel's ethics investigation, or Tom Delays, or any number of players from either side of the aisle that are really irrelevant to the policy issues we were discussing. I could do that I suppose, but I’ve just seen that tactic too many times to fall for it anymore. Let’s keep talking policy instead.
    I'll stop blaming Bush when conservatives start taking responsibility for Bush.

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    Well, Dr Moe, you're the one who always expalins away BO's shortcomings, lies, etc by claiming Bush was worse? What's the difference? Why is it so important to you to "stick to policy" on this particular issue

    Oh yeah, this Rangel ordeal is yet another example of hypocrisy from the radical left wing elites- protect your own! I guess it's okay for the elites to throw stones but in the face of undisputable evidence of criminal activity by one of their own they work to reach a "settlement". Think the guy will keep his job? His influence? His standing in the Democrat Party?
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    I do not think President Obama is a Miserable Failure...but he I do think he is headed down the right road for it.
    If it is important enough to have...it is important enough to pay for.

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    It isn't easy to clean another rats ****. The man failed to clean up after the last and has dug himself in the whole.

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